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Will It Lens? Table of Contents


Welcome, all! Here are links to everything in the "Will It Lens?" series.
  • Part 1: introduction, melting pennies, dimes, toothpaste, Tylenol, milk, chalk, gourd, can.
  • Part 2: equipment upgrades, CDs, disposable silverware, brass penny, burned pennies.
  • Part 3 (Food Edition): popcorn, grape, kumquat, Frosted Mini Wheat, jelly beans, Reese's Pieces.
  • Part 4: wood, quarter, soap, dishwasher detergent, bacon, egg, honey, seashell, almonds, gummy bears, M&Ms.
  • Part 5 (Temperature Breakthrough): marshmallow, peeps, copper, iron, sand, glass
  • More to come soon eventually!
  • Gallery of all pictures: This contains every picture we took. There's a lot of junk in here; the good pictures are in the blog posts above.


FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS (updated)
  1. Can you melt glass?

    This surprised us, but yes! Normal glass is more properly called "sodalime glass," which has a much lower melting point than pure silicon dioxide (which we originally thought glass was made of, and which we haven't been able to melt yet). However, we have trouble melting clear things because they don't absorb the sunlight. Nonetheless, we melted a dark brown glass in part 5.

  2. Can you melt sand?

    Kinda. The sand we tried is a mixture of quartz, feldspar, and iron. We can melt the last two, but we haven't melted quartz yet. Look at part 5 for more details.

  3. Can you lens electronics?

    We probably could, but we don't want to because the fumes are really noxious. There's lead and other stuff that's terrible for your lungs in there.

  4. Can you use a second lens to focus the light even more?

    No, that's not how optics works. For a slightly more thorough answer, see the Light Sharpener FAQ over at cockeyed.com.

  5. Where did you get the lens? How much did it cost?

    I think we got it from here. When we ordered it, I think it was about $120, plus shipping. If you include the wood for the frame and stand, the welding goggles, and the skillet, we've probably spent over $200 on lens-related stuff so far.

  6. You should lens something that will burst and explode all over the place!

    That would be very entertaining, but we need to clean everything up before lunch is over, so we're not doing anything too messy in the foreseeable future (no unopened pop cans, no aerosols, etc.). If we ever take the lens out to the middle of the desert, we will consider lensing messy things.

  7. You should lens an iPhone, iPod, or other hip status symbol.

    First, see question 3 about electronics. Then, remember that we're paying for all of this with our own money. We'd prefer not to lens anything that costs more than a couple dollars. Everything we've tried so far has cost under $1 each (almost everything is under $0.25 each).

  8. Isn't it illegal to destroy money?

    Not unless you do it with the intent to defraud someone. Remember the last time you went to the zoo? You probably saw one of those machines that will take your penny, flatten it out, and stamp an image of a penguin or something on it as a souvenir. Melting a penny is no more illegal than one of those machines.



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Perhaps it would just melt the panel. Too bad, that.

What a wonderful way to spend lunch time.
i once melted a cheap solar panel's cover just from an incandescent light bulb.

for cooking, maybe you could distribute the heat more evenly by boiling water in a container and setting a second pan in/over it? cheaper than a copper plate. could make ganache for dessert...

making ice cream with liquid nitrogen is fun too...

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If the glass is clear, it won't absorb any light, so it won't heat up. But if it's somewhat opaque, like a beer bottle, it might work. "Traditional" glass is silicon dioxide (aka quartz, aka sand), which melts around 1996 K. If we can't melt copper at 1356 K, we have no hope of that. But I don't actually know what tinted glass is made of; perhaps the tinting material melts at a much lower temperature. I'll add beer bottles to the list.
This is in similar vein but potentially higher-powered:

http://www.cockeyed.com/incredible/solardish/dish01.shtml
Livejournal emails me when people comment on my blog. Your comment was caught by my spam filter (presumably due to its title). Well done!

I hadn't seen that before, but it's a pretty cool project. Thanks for the info!

Real Genius

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 19:05:28 UTC 10 years ago

You guys got to reenact one of cinema's greatest moments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VTy9ESXnoQ

So unfair.
I recently ahd the opportunity to play with one as well.

Yes it does melt glass.

We actually used a lens about the size you have to separate soldered pipe joints and actually soldered copper fitting with it for a thermosolar water heater.
Ooh, I'll add solder to our list of stuff to try. Nice idea!

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 19:17:50 UTC 10 years ago

Peeps!

Peeps. Peeps. Peeps.

PEEEEEEEEEPS!
YES.

big_bad_al

10 years ago

Flames

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 19:32:11 UTC 10 years ago

Try Strawberry Pop-Tarts (http://www.pmichaud.com/toast/).
Interesting! I'll add it to the list.
Just taking a toy car with a sail made with a reflective material could do the trick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail

Let's do a rough calculation of how much force we could get from using the lens as a solar sail. We can get about a kilowatt of sunlight focused through the lens. The relativistic momentum of a photon is its energy divided by the speed of light. However, if we reflect the photons instead of just absorbing them, the change in their momentum is twice their absolute momentum. So the force we could get from using the lens as a solar sail is

1 kilowatt / c * 2 = 0.000007 newtons

That's way too small to do anything because it is dwarfed by the force needed to overcome air friction (let alone the friction in the wheels of the car). Solar sails don't become a plausible mode of transportation until you're in the vacuum of space (no friction) with thousands of square meters of sail (reflects more light) and years to wait (you accelerate very slowly because the forces are so small).

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The seashell was a mussel we saved from dinner one night. It started out all black, and we burned off the color (we suspect the white part is mostly leftover calcium).

I think the lens was about $120, but once you include the materials for the frame and stand, stronger filters for the welding goggles, the skillet, etc., we've probably spent $200.

chouyu_31

10 years ago

Speakers

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 20:04:33 UTC 10 years ago

In high school my friends and I used one of these (for an overhead projector) to burn the following items:

Mini-donuts (covered with wd-40)(it lit on fire)
A modem
Someone's car stereo speaker

That last one got us all suspended.

Wow

Anonymous

April 10 2009, 20:18:16 UTC 10 years ago

A Google employee with a Yahoo picture album.
twinkies
hard drive
oven glove, welding glove
coffee mug
tv
concrete
drywall
time how long it takes to boil a liter of water
stainless steel frying pan vs teflon coated frying pan
how about introducing another magnifying glass to focus the beam even further?
Interesting ideas! We considered electronics in the past but decided not to do them because none of us want to breathe the fumes. Also, we don't want to do Teflon because it's mostly fluorine (which was used as a chemical weapon in World War One; definitely bad for breathing). The second magnifying glass won't work because the incident light is not parallel (for a bit more explanation, see the Light Sharpener FAQ over at cockeyed.com.

However, the rest of your ideas are nice; I'll add them to our list. Thanks!

Re: more items to lens

Anonymous

10 years ago

An iPhone?
iPhone +1
Hey, why don't get yo-yos get back to work. Google search is down again!!!! Seriously, isn't this supposed to be an available service, like, all of the time?
Kittens
Tires
Aerosol cans

Just kidding. You really shouldn't lens tires or aerosol cans. :)
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